It was commonly known he was gay. His biographer stated it flat out (Swed); it wasn't just rumour or tabloid reports. Mays created two works for the company that allowed him to tap into his long-simmering classical influences. Before his death, a collection of articles were published that questioned whether Jackson had cancer or AIDS. Fascinating. Search on obits from 82 to 92 and find all the youngish guys who died of "lever cancer". By Emily Blackwood Written on Feb 26, 2019. James Coco died of a heart attack, not AIDS. Rumor has it that John Lennon looked so skinny and ill just before he got shot in 1980 because he was seriously sick, and some have suggested it was HIV or AIDS that was the cause. Across more than 30 years, every moment we shared in music was special., noted Pat Metheny. r108 AIDS deaths go back at least to the 1960s, what an idiotic and/or manipulative thing to say. You really cant trust what his personal doctor says. This brings up the question. But what the world lost with his passing is, as Cantor put it, an amazing intellect. (Scroll down to below the "Sugar Blues" blurb.). Hell, have you ever seen [bold]anyone[/bold] with a chronic fatal disease who wasnt withered just before the end? Published February 8, 2021 - Paul Wertico. He wasn't gay and he didn't die of AIDS. Haha - threads dwindle out and this one has turned into fan girls trolls. Did Prince "accidentally" overdose on his AIDS medications? Mays was born on November 27, 1953 in Wausaukee, Wisconsin. Mays followed suit, taking piano lessons from a local teacher, and eventually began playing organ in his hometown church as a teen. Bernstein, along with many others on this list, smoked like a chimney. This is totally dvastating. This is ridiculous. His niece Aubrey Johnson wrote that he passed away "surrounded by loved ones, after a long battle with a recurring illness." Researched and written by Matt Spaiser Reportedly, more than half if them tested positive. R88 I thought David Bowie died from liver cancer, just like Lou Reed did; but they both probably had Hep C and that can cause liver cancer. Prince died of a drug overdose. Lyle Mays: Oh, well, thank you. I was shocked years later when friends I knew from Toronto told me they heard little about the AIDS crisis until 1984. But given his interest in music and that he was playing piano at the time, it became something that he had to figure out.. [quote]Clayburgh had chronic lymphocytic leukemia for 20 years. He became extremely skinny and frail. Staff. Shorter performing at the 2015 Earshot Jazz Festival in Seattle. Boy George has more integrity in his eyebrow pencil than you'll ever find in elevator boy's little red closette. He was 66. Lyles irory work was brilliant and he brought so much to the P.M. Grp. He had four main interests: chess, mathematics, architecture, and music. I got interested in architecture early on, to the extent that I designed my sisters house, he said in 2016. Just not in the way you meant it. If you listen to the score for The Tale of Mr. Jeremy Fisher, said Cantor, who produced the sessions, its Stravinsky. I lived in Berkeley up until 1981 and there was a small article in the local paper about men coming into the Gay's Men's Health Center with lesions of unknown origin. Oops he made the rumor list. He also recorded a series of childrens albums that found him working with actors Jeremy Irons and Meryl Streep. I got into computers just after the Radio Shack, solder-it-together-yourself stage, he explained. At the time of his death he survived by his large extended friends and family. He contracted it from a blood transfusion according to his family and his publicist. I had a natural affinity to it. There were rumors that he had AIDS because he stopped taking his HIV meds per his JW religion. A marriage with Miss Kitty would give him hetero credentials, something the glass-closeted gay Spaeth needed. [19] John Loftus reported on ABC radio that Arafat had died of AIDS. He died in 1985 EXCUUUUSE me, but I was not a homersexshul. He was 66. Tue 26th Feb 2019 12.24 GMT. As Metheny put it on his Facebook page recently, the grind of touring that was expected of any working jazz musician wore on Mays. Took a while to sink in, what a huge loss. Some features on this site require a subscription. r10 I don't think that was covered up, it was just said that he got it from blood transfusion, or at least later on AIDS/HIV was mentioned as cause of death. I remember reading reports even back in 1991/2 that Miles Davis had died of AIDS, in fact, that he was on AZT at the time of his death. TAMPA, Fla. (AP) The family of TV pitchman Billy Mays released the findings of an independent medical examiner Thursday, who concluded that the . I personally think it was HIV. His mother Doris played piano and organ, and his father Cecil, a truck driver, taught himself to play guitar by ear. What is the definition of "early eighties?" Cause of Death= A medical opinion of the disease or injury that resulted in a person's death. Enjoying huge crossover success, the group is still regarded by many as the last word in fusion; each of Mays 11 Grammy wins came during his tenure with the band. Many years before we first met, Alun Morgan was a huge and lasting influence on my jazz listening and helped shape my taste for the music. 2:02. Become a contributor - post when you want with no ads. Feb 10, 2020: Lyle Mays, of Pat Metheny Group, Dies. [20] Lyle's Oberheim analog synth pad and his voice counting the second hand of a clock at the recording session, "55, 3..," which can be heard from the bridge part of "As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls (1981)," was used for Christian Dior's Fahrenheit Cologne commercials for almost 30 years, from 1988 to 2016.[21]. [30] As an amateur architect, he designed his own house, home studio, and his sister Joan's house in Wisconsin. He died in 1990 from a sudden case of organ failure resulting from Streptococcus pyogenes, a severe Group A streptococcal infection.More recently Internet rumors have been spreading over the death of comedian Bernie Mac. Keith Aspden, the longterm manager of Talk Talk frontman Mark Hollis, has confirmed the singer's death. Benedetto Guitars, the company that made his signature model . If anybody was trying to cover it up, they were doing a piss poor job of it. He was 66. You cannot imagine what it was like then. I was MARRIED! I think about how I didn't live my life but when I came of age in the early 80s there were lots of stories in the media about AIDS. He studied music in college, got turned on to jazz and went off to playing with Woody Herman's Big Band. Lyle Mays: OK. Hmmmmmmm. RIP Lyle. "Our family was experiencing a lot of difficulties," Mays, 40, said. The first time I saw him I knew he was gay. I will miss him with all my heart.. Redirecting to /news/grammy-winning-jazz-keyboardist-lyle-mays-dies-66 (308) He was the composer of all but one tune, and the sole arranger, for the bands 1975 recording Lab 75which netted Mays his first Grammy nomination. Not all, of course, but I'd gamble that most. American actress Brittany Murphys sudden death in 2009 is strange. I believe my uncle died of AIDS. Lyle was one of the greatest musicians I have ever known, Metheny wrote on his website. He didn't seem afraid of a lawsuit at all. So he was fucking escort and probably other celebrities. Just looks at the wackadoodle doctor Trump has who said he is the healthiest president that ever lived. View Comments. Some insight into what made their relationship so fruitful can be found in an interview Mays gave to DownBeat for the March 1993 edition, around the time Fictionary was released. He wrote a half hour of music that was so beautiful and so expansive and worked so well with the story.. Rest in peace. Had a deep and abiding love of the twink, the fresher the better. Lyle Mays - Eberhard 12 Inch Album Poster $5.00 USD. Certainly one of the top keyboard players and composer of the second half of the 20th century. As for so many artists of his generation, rock and popular music were formative influences, and Mays collaborative credits also included recordings with Joni Mitchell (Shadows And Light, 1980), Rickie Lee Jones (Girl At Her Volcano, 1983), and Earth Wind & Fire (Heritage, 1990). He said he had sex with thousands of women". Mays is survived by two sisters. Who knows if this is true but Jamie did on of his stand up acts where he talks about how pretty Prince was. R272 so who was the actor, or was it Bert? He was an enormous talent. I think George Michael was full blown when he died. He was 66. Lyle was one of the greatest musicians I have ever known. His death was announced by his niece, vocalist Aubrey Johnson, who posted the news to social media late on the evening of the 10th. This was not the first time they had done this during the tour, but it was a definite first for me. It was rumored that Michael Landon had Aids. His medical files were never made public. So yeah - he died in an elevator from a drug patch. I'm sure that's what killed Jackie Onassis. Of course, there have been AIDS patients who used cancer as a cover, but gay men do sometimes die from actual, non-AIDS-related cancer, just like any other population, and did not cease doing so between 1981 and 1995. An absolute masterpiece. Much like Marburg did for 30 years and Ebola on and off for ten year cycles, till both took hold in the 90s and became much more mainstream. Or was it something else. I am going to run through a list of famous people who have been known to die from something besides AIDS, but rumors persist. But did he say he got it from GM or mutual Paul Stag?? By the time Mays had finished his formal education, his arrangements for North Texas State University Lab Band could be heard on the Grammy nominated Lab 75, the first of 23 lifetime nominations for the Recording Academys coveted gong. No married "straight" man has ever died of AIDS, r58? r92 - maybe because he had no history of transfusions. Mays had a "long battle with a recurring illness," according to Pat Metheny's website. I loved his sounds, i.e the ARP, Oberheim MOOG, and other beautiful sounding synths and keys he used. Now I wonder if it was a political statement, or if it was indeed homophobic? Rock Hudson is the prime example. If Prince had homo sex I hope it was with a nice guy - not a sleazy loser. I don't actually believe that Clayburgh died of AIDS, but for the record 20-year chronic leukemia could easily be a cover for AIDS. Television pitchman Billy Mays likely died of a heart attack in his sleep, but further tests are needed to be sure of the cause of . R135 nope, that's indeed George Michaels last foto. Also - quite a while since Price died and not one man has come forward to say he had sex with Prince. I knew many of the people involved at the time. Writing shortly after Mays death, Metheny said: Lyle was one of the greatest musicians I have ever known. RIP Brother! [4], While growing up in rural Wisconsin, Mays had a lot of curiosity but had to learn many things all by himself due to a lack of available resources and information. His broad intelligence and musical wisdom informed every aspect of who he was in every way. or there must have been famous people before Rock Hudson who died? Mays toured with Woody Herman for eight months between 1975 and 1976, but it was a meeting with guitarist Pat Metheny at the 1974 Wichita Jazz Festival that would come to most define his subsequent career. An appreciation of science would never leave him, and amongst Mays many non-musical achievements was designing a house for his sister. Su familia dio a conocer la noticia de su. Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays ~ Ozark (1981) Georgy Porgy's Favorites 22.2K subscribers 516 36K views 3 years ago "Ozark" is a song from "As Falls Wichita, so Falls Wichita Falls", a collaborative. Lyle Mays. Rumors have been swirling around the death of Jim Henson, who was the creator of The Muppets. In 1984 Amanda Blake married Austinite Mark Spaeth. He grew up listening to classical music and, at the age of nine, began teaching himself (with his parents encouragement) to play piano and organ. F*ME! Hello and thank you for registering. I remember it not being very detailed or urgent. I first was exposed to the late great Lyle Mays via Pat Methany, as Im a rock/jazz/fusion guitarist from St. Louis MO. Their music has been a constant theme and a reassuring thread for most of my adult . R150, you really really need to shut the fuck up and pressure wash your dildo cabinet, it's not gonna clean itself you dumb filthy whore. I don't see the point in spreading totally unfounded rumors. Jazz keyboardist Lyle Mays, whose work won nearly a dozen Grammy awards, died Monday in Los Angeles, Calif. He was 66. In my family, all my favorite uncles died of AIDS or suicide, but no one ever covered it up. Arafat's long time personal doctor confirmed he died of AIDS, although that's not the official cause of his death. Or do they think their wit is SO original that no one in the years this thread has been ongoing thought of that? This man created synth and piano textures that were astounding. He was a heroin addict into the 80s. Try & look up the Lizard album from the North Texas State Lab Band way back in the 70s. Peace to him and his family. Yes and lived with it just fine, until the HIV infection pushed her into death. [quote]Arafat's death was highly controversial at the time. Lyle Mays (November 27, 1953 February 10, 2020) and Pat Metheny pioneered a unique style of jazz fusion, integrating elements of jazz, rock and musical traditions from around the world. He played live up to the end and people who saw him said he looked atrocious. Mays remained with the Pat Metheny Group until 2010when he not only left the group, but also began paying increasingly less attention to the music business in general. r112 a dear friend of mine who was a radio DJ in New York told me the Prince always requested a male escort when in town. I Just listened to the TEDx performance. Mays was a cofounder of the Pat Metheny Group in 1977, and remained a member for 33 years. He is/was a very public figure and his life very searchable. To the cunt at R224 and R202, this thread has been full of them. Prince died of AIDS ? What a infantile post r10. We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. Max Robinson, the first African-American broadcast network news anchor in the United States. In 1975 he met Pat Metheny at the Wichita Jazz Festival and later founded the Pat Metheny Group. Bowie, rumors. I had bedded the musical director (David) of a touring show, and we really clicked sexually. Lyle Mays - Eberhard Mug $10.00 USD. Composer and keyboardist Lyle Mays, best known for his long partnership with Pat Metheny, has died at the age of 66. It's public knowledge that Alexander McQueen was HIV+ at the time of his death. [32] Discography [ edit] As leader/co-leader [ edit] True R239 many broadway actors, producers, set/costume designers, dancers, etc. This was long before the internet; so wed all read newspaper and magazine clippings the professor had collected. He passed away surrounded by family and friends, including Steve Rodby, who worked with Mays in Methenys group. The list, not hidden but more names on there then I knew about. He and Metheny also worked with Joni Mitchell on her 1979 Shadows and Light tour; the following year they composed and recorded a duo album, As Falls Wichita, So Wichita Falls. He's as straight as Richard Simmons. Ahmad Jamal (19302023) with his trio at the Jazz Showcase in Chicago. McQueen was definitely positive. He was 66. [5] His teacher allowed him to practice improvisation after the structured elements of the lesson were completed. Suspicious timing. What a loss. Raul Julia did not die of AIDS. He was married three times (to women) but there were rumors he was gay. He couldnt understand it at all. The best recording I think Lyle ever made was with Metheny on the So falls Wichita Falls recording. Watch the trailer, find screenings & book tickets for The Son on the official site. [quote] omeone in a Prince thread right after he died said that Jamie Foxx was the one who infected Prince with HIV. My favorite Pianist! Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. I thought no one dies of that anymore. He announced he was poz in 1991. Already a member? There wasnt another multi-keyboardist like him. Don't count on it, R234. Speaking of Brad Davis, his daughter is now a trans man. James Coco (still pretty covered up to present), Perry Ellis (covered up for a while, then revealed). [quote] .. but speculation on DL can be far from the truth. r223, Bitch my sarcasm beat u to the punch. In the end he was another actor who died at a rather young age. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9fY9fQm4lo died of HIV/AIDS. Had a deep and abiding love of the twink, the fresher the better.". This year is Lyle Mays's personal year number 9. Born in Wausaukee, Wisconsin, 27 November 1953, Lyle David Mays came from a musical family. It was amazing to say the least. My sympathy to his family, his friends and all his fans. He was my dear uncle, mentor, and friend and words cannot express the depth of my grief. r199 there's a difference between being positive and dying of AIDS. From the first notes we played together, we had an immediate bond. I've always wondered about whether DOM DeLUISE might have. Advertise with Jazz Journal R272 do you have a link to that thread? John Zorn will appear in a number of different configurations at this years Big Ears Festival. Photo: Getty. The number 9 is the peak of change because this is the time to close an old cycle and open a new cycle. From there, Mays became the longest tenured member of the Pat Metheny Group, co-writing much of the bands material and blending acoustic piano with an ever-growing array of synthesizers to add misty textures and whimsy to their sessions. r109 - Yeah, right after Prince died lots of speculation on DL (and elsewhere) that he had symptomatic HIV. Across more than 30 years, every moment we shared in music was special. It's very likely AIDS came and when in cycles killing a few here and there. Pat Metheny confirmed the news of his death by writing, "Lyle was one of the greatest musicians I have ever known, Across more than 30 years, every moment we shared in music was special. Interesting the number of people who supposedly got infected by infected blood following a transfusion during surgery Amd yet - we also know - or its been long rumoured - that they were utter sleazes. r10 I don't think that was covered up, it was just said that he got it from blood transfusion, or at least later on AIDS/HIV was mentioned as cause of death. [13][14], Mays composed, orchestrated, and arranged as a core member of the Pat Metheny Group, playing piano, organ, synthesizers, and occasionally trumpet, accordion,[15] agog bells,[16] autoharp,[17] toy xylophone,[18] and electric guitar. That should have been the end of the story, but it wasnt. He said he had sex with thousands of women. [31] Mays brought intellectual and organic architectural concepts in his music and sound design based on the innovative integration of many different sources to create a completely new soundscape as Wright achieved through his unique architectural landscape. That was just sort of the command center. He did enough hard drugs to have a lasting effect, and long term substance abusers (even if they've quit) have health issues when they hit their 60s. He died in 1999 at 63 for a heart condition but had lost an enormous amount of weight. [quote]Arafat had lost a lot of weight before he died, he was stick thin and looked very sick. Even the merest speculation of HIV meant a damaged, or tainted, estate value and posthumous reputation. IIRC he died of pneumocystic sarcoma. Have known several guys who had reputations as lotharios with the ladies - who also werent averse to threeways with other guys - and lotsa other bi and gay fun besides. Gudenov was a supposed pussy hound and raging alkie. Harry Hamlin always had the GAYEST roast beef lips. I knew his wife back then. Lyle Mays, an acclaimed pianist, keyboardist, and composer who was best known for his long and close association with guitarist Pat Metheny, died on the morning of February 10 in Los Angeles. [quote]Prince died of AIDS and we'll never know because the family knows it'll hurt their sales. I guess this is the 1980s in which people living with aids die looking very skinny. There was a huge media buzz in the SFBA, many more cases of the mysterious set of symptoms were turning up amongst the gay male population. A lot of wisdom here in this dad-blamed thread. I kind of feel like the music industry has left me, he said in a revealing podcast interview forJazzizin 2016, and his observation that people were increasingly reluctant to pay for music has proven to be remarkably prescient. Brad Davis from Midnight Express, now known but at the time only 2 people knew he had AIDS at the time of death. I heard Jackie O got it from Nureyev, but it was hushed up. [22] Arafat's personal doctor for 18 years, Dr. Ashraf Al-Kurdi, said Arafat suffered from AIDS. [quote]I think George Michael was full blown when he died. It's anonymous site. He was just a weird guy who "didn't think like other people", hence his serious eating disorders. How about Terry Lester? Upon graduation from UNT, Mays promptly won an audition for the piano chair in Woody Hermans orchestra, with whom he toured for eight months. Guys who lived in these areas were wholesale fucking visitors/tourists and seamen (no pun intended), allowing infections to spread pretty rapidly. My heart is broken for the loss of such a musical genius. Weird r177. Lyle Mays Death/ Cause of Death Mays died on February 10, 2020, after a battle with a "recurring illness". Mays died in Los Angeles at the age of 66 on February 10, 2020 "after a long battle with a recurring illness". He was a handsome local politician with an eye on higher offices. Im going to DVR this show. r104 - why are you being so coy? I have no idea why there would be gay rumors about Jim Henson. [quote]Isn't it an open secret in NY music circles that this certain individual - who's discussed in a current DL thread because of a book by his daughter - died of an Aids-related illness? An announcement on Metheny's Facebook page said he died surrounded by loved ones "after a long. True, r219, but let's face it. Unless otherwise indicated, all content copyright Jazz Journal 1948-2023. "I've always wondered about Wilt Chamberlain. Who is out there that died from HIV, but the information was never made public? I think he wrote an open letter to Variety or the Hollywood Reporter or something. R112, not to belabor the obvious, but speculation on DL can be far from the truth. His technique was equally impressive and is music will forever make dream of this golden era, of which he is one of the best representative. He also worked with a host of other noted musicians, including Pat Coil, Bobby McFerrin, Rickie Lee Jones, Earth, Wind & Fire, and Joni Mitchell. One of the most prodigious composers and singular, harmonically sophisticated improvisers in jazz history, tenor and, There was a time I decided I was not a composer, only an improvisor, and I find that very difficult to do with one hand, Jarrett says. [4] In 1985, Metheny's and Mays's compositions were performed by the Steppenwolf Theater in Chicago in the critically-acclaimed production of Orphans by Lyle Kessler. CHRISTINE ARMARIO Associated Press Writer. Billy, do you mind if he joins us? Fashion designer Charles James maybe? George Michael didn't die of AIDS but he had it. Unfortunately for him and Mrs. Spaeth, no one knew he had AIDS. Having practiced Christian Science he ignored his symptoms; if he had gone to a doctor immediately he probably wouldn't have died. People were totally in denial regarding Michaels transformation with the skin bleaching and plastic surgery. Unlock an article. I would think that would be big news. He didn't have AIDS. Agreed r121 very low IQ sense of humor. The Original Pat Metheny Group: Mark Egan, Pat Metheny, Lyle Mays, Danny Gottlieb. The renowned R&B/funk group, Earth, Wind & Fire, recorded Lyle's most beloved original composition from his first solo album, "Close to Home" for their 1990 album, Heritage as an interlude and he participated in the arranging and recording session for the piece. By 1978, the prevalence of HIV-1 among homosexual male residents of New York City and San Francisco was estimated at 5%, suggesting that several thousand individuals in the country had been infected.[249]". His former manager, Keith . Music at its best is not in need of novelty; indeed, the older it is, the more one is accustomed to it, the stronger its effect. Maybe that's not it, but he does look frail. R184 what did he say wrong? His death was announced via his Facebook page: "It is with deep sadness that I share that my uncle, Lyle Mays, passed away this morning in Los Angeles surrounded by loved ones, after a long battle with a recurring illness. At the tail end of 2022, Brad Mehldau took advantage of a New York sojourn to play piano with old friends at Smalls. Prince died of AIDS and we'll never know because the family knows it'll hurt their sales. On February 10, 2020, Lyle Mays died of non-communicable disease.